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Snarp ([personal profile] snarp) wrote2010-12-08 11:27 pm

xxxHolic, chapter 189

Is this a deliberate reference to Shunkin? Or is Beautiful Morally-Problematic Blind Shamisen Player Woman a trope in itself, to which Shunkin herself is a reference?
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[personal profile] starlady 2010-12-09 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
…Given that one shogunate assassin in Samurai Champloo, I think we're looking at a trope here, but I have no idea about origins. (I didn't think the one in HOLiC was particularly morally problematic, though.)
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[personal profile] starlady 2010-12-09 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Fascinating!
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
That plotline also sounds even more suspiciously like the 2008 Zatoichi reboot/sequel Ichi, which is also credited to Kan Shimozawa: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060256/ However, he died in 1968, and all the English-language references I can find on his work seem very cursory and incomplete -- which makes me wonder if the girl-Ichi film and manga are directly based on some sequel title he actually wrote, or if these were modern adaptations and he's just getting original-concept credit?
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[personal profile] octopedingenue 2010-12-09 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Sara! She is pretty much the awesome.

Blind shamisen-playing women are A JapaneseThing, themselves: from the Champloo link, the wikipage for goze, which is pretty much the most intriguing ancient organization that actually existed, Knight Templars be demned.. I'm not sure whether Beautiful and Morally Problematic were requirements of the job or whether that's lore that built up around the inherently romantic profession of blind (tragic!), traveling (exotic!), musician (mysterious!) women (scandalous!).